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14 November 2019

I Got Solution On Vodafone Idea Getting Insolvent



I got solution on Vodafone Idea getting insolvent

In last two decade, may be a more than dozen of companies got merged / out of business in Indian telecom sector. Even Tata’s (remember Tata Indicom and Tata Docomo) had gracefully exited

In past Vodafone wanted to come out with IPO for fund raising, but it did not happen. Then it got merged with IDEA. When Two loss making business come together, losses gets increase.

Jio challenged all telecom operators on technology and pricing as it build company prominently on equity and not resorted to debt / loan

Today Vodafone Idea has
Debt 99,000 crore
Yearly loss say 20,000 crore
License fee and spectrum outstanding dues say 30,000 crore to 40,000 crore

Vodafone Group chief executive Nick Read has made threatening / blackmailing statements. Asking for relief package or will exit India. I think this has become a norm, if business is not doing good, business owners goes to government for package, earlier this year we saw industry asking for GST relief.

After making this kind public statement, now who will give any more loan or goods / service on credit to Vodafone Idea?

Being in stock market, I keep analysing companies
Few months ago, I was thinking, Vodafone Idea will go Reliance communication way in two years time frame. With recent supreme court AGR ruling, we are seeing lots of noise

I don’t know what is intention of Vodafone Idea whether they want to continue business in India or discontinue business blaming government

Apparently it seems “Angur khatte hai (अंगूर खट्टे हैं)"

Becoming insolvent will affect everyone
Total say 150,000 crore at stake
Once Vodafone Idea become insolvent, it will affect banks lending money, revenues to government, employment to people, business cascading effect as well as business friendly image of India

I got a solution
Vodafone Idea AGR liability is said to be in range of 30,000 crore to 40,000 crore (including spectrum usage charge dues, penalties, interest)

For every crore amount forgone / relief by Department of Telecommunications (DOT), Vodafone Idea should bring in 6 crore equity

Say revenue forgone Department of Telecommunications (DOT) 20,000 crore and Vodafone Idea brings in equity capital to the tune of 120,000 crore

This should sort out all issues and we will have three main players in Indian telecom industry

Fingers crossed :D


24 April 2019

Non Renewal Of Investment Advisor Registration

Below is copy of letter send to SEBI 




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Ease

Of

Doing

Business


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21-Apr-2019

To ,
Mr Naveenji Gupta
Securities and Exchange Board of India, Investment Management Department, Division of Funds - 1, Plot No. C4-A, “G”- Block, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra (East), Mumbai – 400 051 India

Subject : Non renewal of registration

Dear Naveenji,
Kindly note as informed in earlier email and letter, advisory service was deactivated from 01-Jan-2018

My SEBI’s registration was offered for period 2014-19. Not sure why on SEBI’s website registration is showing as perpetual


Kindly note SEBI does not decide anything / outcome /call on consultation paper issued by SEBI in 2016

I do not wish to make any more charity to SEBI for registration / renewal fees or to NiSM for exam fees. I do not wish to pay for renew registration for investment advisory

Thanks for SEBI for institutionalizing securities market business in India. In 2018 except index and few other stocks, market was down / saw correction. Institutions promoted SIP in down market. Same institutions promoted SIP in 2015 down market and ULIP around 2006-2008 era

Periodically, every few months in 2015, I advised clients to stay away from market. Prior to demonetisation, I advised clients about upcoming correction in market.
In recent time, market confirm bottoming out in early 2019 or on day of India’s air strike on Pakistan. How many institutions come forward and advice investors to invest more money ppp?

Investor does not understand stock market. Thanks to SEBI for bringing investor at the mercy of institution for their return on investment. Institutions are more keen for their profit over investors benefits

Organisations like DRDO, ISRO RBI, UIDAI, TRAI has taken India to next level of growth and excitement. They made Indian’s proud

SEBI has taken Indian securities market to license raj era through series of complex regulation / unpredictable legal environment / regulations favouring business to institution over individual advisor or want want only few institution control majority market share of securities market business

In dotcom boom around year 2000, no one put restriction on websites. In smartphone boom, no one put restriction on mobile apps. When Jio launched mobile service, TRAI did not put restriction on usage of mobile calls / data on Ambani family / Jio employee....in securities market SEBI puts restriction on doing business for investment advisors and continues to create mess for investors

Below are links of various blogs written in past on securities market




https://atulgandhicom.blogspot.com/2017/11/is-sebi-holding-back-india-and-indian.html




Planet earth is ascending to higher level of consciousness. Not sure how many more years SEBI will be able to hold dreams of 125+ crore Indian people ? Wish better wisdom prevails and prosperity for all

Future plans
Apparently SEBI’s regulation least affected to business of CNBC TV18 TV channel, business continues as usual. Anuj can talk about two stocks on bazaar morning call” without risk profiling / KYC / stringent regulation restrictions, so are there number of people talks positively / negatively on channel (with or without recommending stocks)

In late 1980 or early 1990, broadcasting used to cost a few hundred crores. But now with technology evolution, with almost zero cost channel can be launched via Youtube. At future date / subject to SEBI’s call on consultation paper issued by SEBI in 2016, I will explore possibility / launch own stock market investment advisory channel on YouTube / suitable open online media

On consultation paper 2016 & securities market environment
I guess after coming out with multiple regulation / creating complex regulatory environment, SEBI is finding difficult to take call on SEBI’s own consultation paper issued in way back 2016. If you want I can offer simplified, fair and transparent regulation / legal structure for securities business in India

SEBI can’t handle its job properly, so now SEBI planning for SRO. If I find SRO offer “ease of doing business” in India, I may renew my registration

Thanks a lot
With lots of love and happiness



Atul Gandhi










Reply To SEBI On Consultation Paper Self Regulatory Organizations in Securities Market




Reply to SEBI on 21-Apr-2019




Name of the Entity/ Person: Atul Gandhi CommunicateAtul@Gmail.com 9371331337
Sl. No.
Reference Para of the
Consultation Paper or other
provisions of the SRO
Regulations
Suggestions
Rationale

1.1.1
5.5.1
5.5.4

Option A)
Most preferred option
Single SRO for all people / entities doing business in securities market

Research analyst
Investment Advisor
AMC
Mutual fund
PMS
IA / RA
Broker
Television
Print media
competitions/games
Open / electronic media like facebook / twitter / youtube etc
Legendary wealth creator people like Rakesh Junjunwala speaking in public


Option B)
Second preferred option
Have separate SRO for
a) IA doing financial planning
b) IA doing mutual fund advisory
c) IA doing stock market advisory




Rational of Option A

1) Level playing field: Regulation / business environment / law / legal environment should be same / treat all people / entities /intermediaries doing business in securities market

2) Some months ago Research analyst regulation restriction made mandatory for Investment Advisor. If Research analyst regulation restriction made mandatory for Investment Advisor , then logically it should have been made applicable to other intermediately doing business in stock market like broker or portfolio manager appearing in public media discussing stock with or without consideration

3) Portfolio manager can invest in a stock / sector and then come on public media like CNBC tv & talk positive about stock / sector they invested. But IA is put under RA regulation restriction. Law should be equal to all

4) Say a portfolio manager invests in a stock and then talk positive in CNBC. Portfolio manager did not get any consideration for talking positive, but it is likely that that stock may go up & Portfolio manager get indirectly benefited. And after few weeks /months, Portfolio manager can exit stock & at the time of existing stock he may not inform on CNBC.

5) It is possible
: One arm of institution buys a stock and afterword other arm of same institution recommend same stock to public
: One arm of institution recommends a stock to public and other arm of same institution sells stock /books profit.

Those who got lot of money power, can create different vertical i.e. subsidiary and offer all kind of financial service (one stop financial shop)

Whether department / division or subsidiary, ownership remains same

Ultimately management, beneficiary & profit of business goes to owners of business, & SEBI has chosen to overlook this factor

6) Financially rich institutions should not be given preferences / advantages / treated differently / different law over investment ad visors.
7) Broker, who is interested in broking income, can give research report / investment advice. SEBI says its incidental to their business. But restrictions on IA / RA has been put by SEBI

8) Investor can get input from print-tv-online media without risk profiling and KYC. Restrictions on IA and RA are put by SEBI

9)
IA regulation put compulsion for doing risk profiling. Regulation clearly mentions that “income details” and “existing investments/ assets” should be taken from client

But

Investor can open demat & trading account without doing risk profiling
Investor can buy or sell stock as per his wish without doing risk profiling
Investor can take input new paper or CNBC or other media & buy or sell stock without doing risk profiling


10) Law should be same for all intermediaries as well as print-tv-online media in securities business.


Rational of Option B

1)
Consultation paper says there are
are approx. 1,24,000+ distributors of MF products Vs only 1,136 IAs registered with SEBI as on March

IA are less than 1% of total. IA business model is very different from distributor, so we need different SRO.

2) Put in simple words
Differnt SRO for
1) intermediaries doing financial planning
2) intermediaries doing mutual fund business
3) intermediaries doing only stock market advisory

3) In past I am registered myself as Investment advisor, offering investment advisory service in stock market.

I advice for direct buying / selling in stock market

MF is distributor does not advice direct investment in stock market. At AMC there is fund manager who decides buying / selling in stock market

Business structure / nature are different. So need is there for separate SRO











Reply To Consultation Paper on Amendments/Clarifications to the SEBI (Investment Advisers) Regulations, 2013

As from time to time complex regulation brought by SEBI, my reply to SEBI has been apparently complex

Its preferred new fresh simple regulation can be re-drafted to have fair and transparent regulatory environment. 

Communication to SEBI on 21-Apr-2019

On consultation paper 2016 & securities market environment
I guess after coming out with multiple regulation / creating complex regulatory environment, SEBI is finding difficult to take call on SEBI’s own consultation paper issued in way back 2016. If you want I can offer simplified, fair and transparent regulation / legal structure for securities business in India 

Below is reply to SEBI in Oct-2016




This letter is dedicated to PM Narendra Modi’s vision for India
  • सबका साथ सबका विकास
  • मेक इन इंडिया
  • व्यापार करने में आसानी






Intermediary : Atul Gandhi
Sr. No.
Pertains to Point No
Suggestions
Rationale
1
4.1.1
4.1.2
4.1.4
4.8.4
4.8.5
4.12
A) IA doing financial planning should do risk profiling & KYC.

B) IA doing mutual fund business can choose whether to take commission as distributor or fees as advisor.

C) IA doing only mutual fund advisory / distribution business should not do risk profiling & KYC.

D) IA doing only stock market advisory business should not do risk profiling & KYC.



1) Too many complex regulation / compliance / restriction will lead to demoralising / less appetite for (individual) people to do (security / investment advisory) business in in India

2) Last 20+ years SEBI may be unintentionally instrumental to institutionalize securities business in India.

3) BSE website shows around 3.23 crore investor base. Investor base / penetration can be compared with mobile penetration / bank account penetration in India for better comparison. Simple regulation will help to build large Indian investor base investing in Stock market.

4) SEBI may encourage individual entrepreneurs to do business.
5) IA Regulations broadly ask for risk profiling & doing KYC

Rational for A) Financial planning advice include how wealth should be divided amongst various investment classes such as stocks, debt, bonds, real estate, gold, commodities, mutual fund, equity / derivative trading and cash etc, so it is logical for financial planner to do risk profiling

Rational for B) Money is money whether it is taken as commission or fees. There is no difference.

Rational for C) i) Say a person wants to invest Rs 2000 or 5000 in mutual fund, there is no logic / need of doing comprehensive risk profiling. It require plain & simple advice
ii) as investment in mutual fund requires KYC, adding procedural requirement of KYC while advising IA / RA will take extra time / efforts / documentation

Rational for D) i) If person wishes to money in stock market, there is no logic / need of doing comprehensive risk profiling. Usually investors are not ready or willing to fill form / offer / share all their financial data / fill risk profiling information.
They just need one service – stock market advice, so it can be offered.
ii) As investment in stock market (opening trading account) requires doing KYC, adding procedural requirement of KYC while advising will take extra time / efforts / documentation.

iii) People can open demat & trading account without risk profiling then why is SEBI insisting on risk profiling on IA/ RA.

iv) People are otherwise free to invest in stock market themselves without risk profiling.










2
4.2.2 a
4.2.2 b
4.8.4
4.8.5
4.12
It is preferred to have separate regulation for
a) IA doing financial planning
b) IA doing mutual fund advisory
c) IA doing stock market advisory
d) All people advising investment in stock market with or without consideration, incidental or un-incidental to their primary business should follow same restriction on trading or disclosure norm
i) Remove complexity in regulation
Rational for d )








3
4.1.4. c
Avoid use of confusing / complex words in draft / writing in regulation
Describing the product in “positive way” or recommending any particular product, customer will take both positively as recommendation only.








4
4.8
4.8.5
Remove complexity of trading via RA regulation. (which is contradictory with IA regulation)
i) Research analyst gets salary from company he / she is working. Stock Market Investment advisor does not get any salary

ii) Recommendations by research analyst may reach to wider audience. Investment advisor typically advice to his / her clients only.

iii) IA regulations allows to trade in stock IA recommends. IA if likely trade in stock IA recommends is it likely to be small quantum / fraction of free market cap of company. So allow IA to trade in stock he / she recommend. Allow IA to trade in stock as per IA regulation. Remove Ra restrictions










5
4.2.1
Regulation / business environment should be same / treat equally to all intermediately
If recommending a stock or talking positive about stock is “incidental” advice for stock broker service then IA should also allow distribution or brokering service as “incidental” to IA service








6
4.2.1
If RA regulation is applicable to IA, it should also be applicable for portfolio managers & AMC too
Portfolio manager can invest in a stock and then come on public media like CNBC tv & talk positive about stock they invested. But IA is put under RA regulation restriction. Law should be equal to all








7
4.2.2 a
RA regulation if mandatory for IA then it should be mandatory for other intermediately doing business in stock market like broker or portfolio manager appearing in public media discussing stock with or without consideration
IA regulation is simple. But restriction on trading is put on IA via RA regulation, so RA regulation along with IA should be applicable.








8
4.3.2
4.3.4
With opening of possibilities with technology in last 2 to 3 decade, any intermediately whether individual or corporate, should allow doing multiple businesses if desired.
Those who got lot of money power, can create different vertical i.e. subsidiary and offer all kind of financial service (one stop financial shop)

Whether department / division or subsidiary, ownership remains same

Ultimately management, beneficiary & profit of business goes to owners of business, & SEBI has chosen to overlook this factor










9
4.4
Same rules should be applicable to competitions/games or public media or CNBC
i) In schemes/competitions/games people talk positively / recommend a stock
ii) Whether talking positive for a stock in schemes/competitions/games or CNBC is same, as it appeals to mass public
iii) Regulation should be equal for all.








10
4.4.1
4.4.4
People taking positive about a stock in public media should follow IA & RA regulation.
Say a portfolio manager invests in a stock and then talk positive in CNBC. Portfolio manager did not get any consideration for talking positive, but it is likely that that stock may go up & Portfolio manager get indirectly benefited. And after few weeks /months, Portfolio manager can exit stock & at the time of existing stock he may not inform on CNBC.










11
4.4.5
If enrolling/getting the clients registered/subscribed “for consideration”, then only IA/RA regulation should apply
If people wish to advice without consideration, then restriction on trading can apply as per IA or RA regulation but do not make compulsion for doing risk profiling & KYC. Unlike 1980’s era, with internet we are in open era & we should respect freedom of expression. Thousands / lakhs of people now a day’s subscribe to facebook / twitter page








12
4.5.2
4.7.2


If advice is for consideration then IA / RA regulation should be applicable.
i) Evolve of communication media: Earlier day’s people used to talk to other person. Then come postcard, telegram telephone, afterwords email, mobile, sms, WhatsApp, ChatOn, WeChat, Twitter, Facebook
ii) Unlike US, In India people will always have 100’s of / lots of friends & relatives
iii) Friends & relatives may look for some suggestion say in event of say BRIC exit should hold or sell stock ? or ask opinion on whether to invest in RBL IPO or not ?
iv) Freedom of expression should be respected
v) If advice is against consideration, IA & RA should be applicable
vi) Legendary wealth creator people like Rakesh Junjunwala should be allowed to speak openly in public media ( be reasonable while putting restriction)











13
4.6.1
4.6.2
4.6.3
4.13.2 h
i)Schemes/competitions/ games should be encouraged
ii) Schemes/ competitions/ games should register with IA / RA regulation
i) Talented people can express their skills through this platform, so these platforms should be encouraged.
ii) We have lots of singers come in limelight after they got change / win competition in TV program started in 1990+ like Sa Re Ga Ma Before 1990 very few singer were controlling industry.
iii) Indian people (investment advisor ) are not so rich that they can afford advt in prominent newspaper or TV channel. Schemes/competitions/ games is best thing happened in India
iv) It will also in line with “make in India” initiative of government. We should see some big Indian people name / institutions coming out in securities market, in next 10 to 15 years with help of Schemes/competitions/ games
v) competitions/ games promotes entrepreneurship spirit, so it should be respected










14
4.6.2 v
Everyone knows stock market is risky investment. No registered intermediately will ever take responsibility of loss in stock market. Not everyone makes profit in all stock market transaction even if it t is registered intermediary
Investment is always subject to market risk.








15
4.9
Separate risk profiling format / questionnaires should be created for corporate clients / non individual clients
i) Money is money whether it is with individual or non individual. Risk associated / return on investment will be same whether money is invested by individual or non individual
ii) Regulation should be fair for all, preferably should not give some extra benefits to some class of intermediary










16
4.11
Payment can be made in cash. Receipt should be provided for cash payment.
i) In day to day life, in India various payments are still done in cash as against card used in USA
ii) Cash is still convenient for payment as against cheque.
iii) Not everyone is comfortable using NEFT.
iv) Bank still accept cash deposit in account to whom payment is to be made.








17
4.13.2 iii
Not understand what is the meaning of clause.
Sharing all past performance data with prospective client or on website should be compulsory
New customer usually ask for past performance details as well as reference of existing clients contact number. Lakhs of people play cricket plays cricket in India, but performance of Sachin makes difference. Sharing past performance will enhance transparency & build trust








18
4.14
If IA has website, details should be mentioned.
In India business is still carried offline i.e. brick & mortar structure as well as online. IA in brick & mortar structure should not be under compulsion to have website








19
4.14.2
Basic information on website should be provided. Below information should not be provided
1. know your client forms,
2. client agreements
3. correspondences with the clients
i) Backend database structure is required for creating website with too many features as mentioned in SEBI consultation paper. Website with database structure is costly & also needs technical help from designer. Maintenance cost will also be high
ii) keep regulation simple








20
4.16.5 v
4.16.5 vii
Below clause should be removed “comprehensive system audit requirements are put in place”
i) IAs are small people providing advisory. IA is not a big institution doing big business.
ii) Keep regulation simple








21
4.17
Recognition should be given rethink or NiSM should offer lifetime validity for its certificate
i) Various other certificate or degree offered such as CFP or CFA has lifetime validity, but NiSM certificate has only 3 years validity.
ii) Foreign degrees like CFP or CFA should be treated at par with local or Indian certificate or degree offered by NiSM